We reported this Two days ago, here’s the latest:
There are reports of players seeing Grrrinders founder, David Webb in Reno,
For more up to date Comments and information go to this Face Book Page
Running Away, Hiding, Faking illness is not the answer—-
Facing an issue and being completely Honest about it is and always has been the best approach to any situation!
Our thoughts on Grrrinders
The original idea of Grrrinders was a good one, a Social Club for Poker Players who love Poker, who want to compete with other players with the same interests, maybe win a few bucks here and there, meet up with your new friends at live events, and form long term friendships that nothing could tear apart.
It would appear the idea was sound, the membership just couldn’t support the site.
This is not to say that Grrrinders is a dead issue, there are still many Members who would play just to play, just to converse with all the acquaintances they have made this last year or so at Grrrinders.
A revamped Grrrinders is still a viable idea, reduce cash awards, promise less, and just let it grow in a natural way.
Too Big, Too Soon has always been the Death sentence for Businesses. Most Business failure is caused by management not knowing how to take their successes and thinking they are the End all Be all of whatever they sell or service.
Everyone starts as a little human being and grows and matures over the course of many years—just like every successful business over time has.
If I am out of line, please tell me why.
I have played on Grrrinders, won a few dollars and quite frankly wondered how they could offer so many prizes (Cash).
When playing there were only at the max—300 to 350 players on the Diamond Room (the premium pay room).
Total membership was said to be over 6000 players (almost all, just Free players) playing on the Gold Room (which offers free play tournaments awarding cash and prizes)
At $30 a month X 350 (this number could be higher, it is based on what we have seen) paid members you are looking at a monthly gross of $10500. There were a few ads on the main page, maybe some endorsement income, but what else?
Paying out $1000 WSOP seat each week for over 30 weeks, a $1000 Saturday Tournament, a $600 Sunday, a Wednesday $500 and $200 every other night each and every week.
This would total over $13K paid out each month–not even adding in the small $4, $8, $10, $20 tournaments paid out everyday.
This was never questioned by anyone, no one had ever had any issues with being paid. So Everything was good!
Suddenly, the last few weeks/months the tournament schedule changed, some tournaments went missing (software issues) and were not repeated, still no comments or none were allowed.
You could see the trouble on the horizon.
BUT NOTHING WAS SAID OR DONE ABOUT IT!
I am rambling on, it just seemed too good to be true,
And No-one said a word –not even me!
I do not know what changed, what happened–only the accountants do.
Like we said in our previous post DO NOT JOIN GRRRINDERS NOW,
Maybe ever again!
How Can Grrrinders Recover?
The First thing to do is make sure all the players involved in the WSOP Fiasco are Paid in Full.
The second thing is to pay out any outstanding player balances
From that point on,
We should all just see what happens, see if everyone is paid what they are owed, see if there are any changes at Grrrinders……
We would like to see them continue, even if it is just for all the players who have stuck with them the past year—the loyal members deserve that option!
A complete Downsize is necessary,
Limit payouts, offer more player loyalty type tournaments (with some sort of award), more inexpensive gift tournaments, limit the cash awards to just a few weekly events, offer more player recruitment awards, promote your Big Events to the hilt on-line, not just to your membership.
There are ways to make this work, experiment with different ideas and promotions.
Every Problem has a solution, you just have to find it!